Okay, so forgive me if there's already a thread but;

What do you guy's think about "English Manga"? Why?

If the poll question isn't obvious, OEL stands for Original English Language manga; basically any "manga" style works released in a Western country.

I personally think that it's underloved. Not the actual mangas under this genre (?) but the genre itself. Manga defined as OEL are usually bad, few and far between. This is due to the fact that not many are released, due to many publishers defining them as unprofitable. Thus, the ones that do survive have generally new mangaka who are inept. As such, there is no 'I love it' response in the poll.

Out of all OEL manga, I personally like Dramacon best.

Oh, and Scott Pilgrim is not an OEL manga (although its style is reminiscent of a manga, its author has stated that it is a comic) so please DO NOT mention it here.

That's all.

There is no such thing. That is and always will be my opinion. If your thing wasn't first published in japan then it isn't a manga. It's a comic regardless of what you say. (or a Manhwa or whatever. It matches with its country of orgin)

Not that there's anything wrong with the manga-type art having American comics, though they tend to not be very good. That's mostly just a matter of there not being enough of them out. Since you know most of all things are terrible.

But really I don't even care for mangas with "Manga-esque art" I mean most of the good artists have their own style. The generic moe cuteness and the such isn't really something I'm a huge fan of. I mean something like Kaiji or BLAME! isn't really all that manga-like at a glance.

Technically,though if manhwas and manhuas were not mangas, then they wouldn't be listed here.

Why not just admit that they're Japan-influenced cartoons and be done with it?

Anyone who wants to be taken seriously should think about taking that perspective. A mangaka is just a Japanese cartoonist anyway, it's a little odd that we don't just say that in the first place, when you get down to thinking about it.

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Technically,though if manhwas and manhuas were not mangas, then they wouldn't be listed here.

That's really a matter of convenience, which is why we list them here, or at least that's my understanding. You'll notice that all of them are labeled by their appropriate country of origin as well.

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Apart from Unbalance x2, which people have probably forgotten, but I see where you're getting at.

I've not read many personally, but it really annoys me when instead of just using a manga-inspired art style, they go all out and make it set in Japan and include honorifics and all that kind of stuff. Unless your story is incredibly specific, there's no reason to set it in Japan if you aren't writing for a Japanese audience.

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Apart from Unbalance x2, which people have probably forgotten, but I see where you're getting at.

...it's been a while, but I believe that had an additional serialization in a Japanese magazine, which creates a gray area.

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To be honest I don't care WHERE a manga or manga-style comic is from.
I don't think there's anything wrong in calling a "comic" which isn't from Japan but drawn in manga-style a manga. u.u

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I've not read many personally, but it really annoys me when instead of just using a manga-inspired art style, they go all out and make it set in Japan and include honorifics and all that kind of stuff. Unless your story is incredibly specific, there's no reason to set it in Japan if you aren't writing for a Japanese audience.

That's something I don't like either. Or, well, it depends. If somebody draws a comic playing in Japan because he/she personaly likes it - I don't think there's anything wrong with it unless they don't know a thing about it.
Such as: I've run into many ppl who were making their fancomics take place in japan just because its a "manga" and pretty much just adding in what little they know of japan from other mangas they've read. That's something I totally can't stand D:
If someone KNOWS what he/she's writing about though.. I think that's just fine. But I think that goes for any country - unless it's in a fantasy world... you should't make a story in a country of which you hardly know a thing.

So yea, if you have some sort of connection or knowlegde about japan you can place your story there. Else, just put it wherever you are yourself or another place that you know well enough to write/draw about u.u

But that's just me :3"

If we were to locate oel releases, could we add the released chapter information to mangaupdates?
Just like any other manga series that is scanlated and reported on a weekly basis when a chapter is out on the internet?

Or are we not allowed to submit a new release that are oels?
Cause if we are, that would be very cool.

I still say one of my personally favorites is MBQ.
Here's a fun fact:
The guy that made MBQ made a REAL manga series, in Morning Magazine 2, named, Peepo Choo.
What I love about this artist is his story and art work. They are almost the opposite what U.S see as "Manga", and yet he's the first american artist that made a real manga series. 🙂

It proves you don't need to draw manga to make manga.

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(Yeah, there was a 1 year bump... but might as well answer your question.) Thanks. Found the answer in the Faqs. "The "release" is a scanned volume from an English publisher. We are not allowing scanned volumes of English manga. These are not scanlations."

Yep, one year bump. 😀 Although, I don't really get "The Weeaboo Effect" joke as much. I didn't want to create a new thread if a thread regarding OEL's still existed.

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What do you guy's think about "English Manga"? Why? I think that Original English Language manga-styled comics are very interesting. Most of them are in color and they most likely have different text bubbles (Comic-Styled Text Bubbles).

There are some OEL mangas that follow the same Japanese format (the reading direction, the text bubble format, using character suffix when addressing someone, etc.) Because let us face it, Japanese Manga are the best known throughout Asian society. The Koreans, Chinese, and other artists/authors have realized their limitations and decided that their best way in over-reaching such boundaries is if they were to use the internet as a tool to surpass the Japanese manga. Which we all know as webtoons/webcomics.

I don't know if the Japanese Manga will ever be surpassed by other originated manga - but I do know that it is possible. OEL manga on the other hand has long ways to go.

Oels that I'm fond of:
Achala
Lullaby
Reality Check!
Strays
Avatar: The Last Airbender - The Promise

Most of the OEL manga that I know of are based off novels. I read a lot of good reviews on them, but when I tried to give them a chance, I was very disapointed. The ones I got to see had no such resemblence to manga. Not the drawings, the effects, or the being read from right to left. Also the stories had a different kind of style. So they were called and advertized as manga, but there was no "link" at all between them. As for the ones that do have many, some or "all" the characteristics of manga, I found few that suited my tastes. Though Cirque du Freak turned out to be one of my favorites; the author is Irish and the illistrator is Japanese.

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